It’s always hard for a designer to receive negative feedback about her creations, but since my business depends on how women perceive my brand I try very hard to take a few deep breaths and listen to feedback and advice.
But then there are times when I receive criticism for changing Indian culture, or succumbing to “western” culture, or promoting a certain look that is anti-feminist. Recently I was told that my clothes promote a look that is anti-women.
When I started Brass Tacks I was very clear that the reason I needed to design cosmopolitan (or “western”) silhouettes is because a lot of younger women don’t wear sarees everyday. The goal was to sustain and hone the skills used in handloom weaving, but to find a market among a younger generation in the form of stylish clothing. But while I receive good press about using handloom fabric, I am also judged for making garments that do not work for older women’s bodies, or for making garments that are too western for our culture. (Incidentally, last year I made a halter dress with a low back for my Monsoon Collection and it flew off the shelves. To me this is proof that the taste and demand for evening dresses exists already; I’m just making it in fabrics that are normally reserved for sarees).
And as for calling my designs anti-women or anti-feminist, I can’t explain how much that hurts. I’ve met so many people who think that a feminist is essentially a man-hater and I’ve spent hours trying to delicately correct their misconception of feminism. Now I need to watch out for people who think I’m a woman hater?
Okay maybe woman hater is a bit of an exaggeration, but one woman told me that my silhouettes are made for an androgynous figure and she added that a lot of younger women are doing whatever they can to achieve that look. Since when did full busts that need darts and empire lines or extra gathers at the lower back to give room for full hips fall into the category of androgynous? An androgynous look may have been an appropriate description for women’s trousers decades ago when it was new and scandalous, but to describe women’s figures as androgynous is either an insult or a reflection of a high and homogeneous standard that all women’s bodies must conform to.
At this point I’d like to add that Brass Tacks trousers that actually have some waist to hip ratio unlike many international brands that expect women to have a straight body from the waist down, and those trousers are worn by women of all ages. I am all about curvy- in fact, curvy brings out the shape of the clothes even better and the shape and fit of the garments is all we focus on at Brass Tacks.
Sure, many of my silhouettes work under the assumption that a woman’s waist is smaller than her bust or hip, but is that a bad thing? Every brand needs to take some position or define its niche in order to distinguish it from every other brand out there. Maybe I should expand my line and work in a variety of silhouettes, but until then my brand is not meant for androgynous women. It is meant for young, confident women, many of whom want fitted clothes. You only need to look at old school bollywood actresses like Zeenat Aman or ancient Indian art like the sculptures at Khajuraho to see that slim waists with curvy busts and hips were in back then too.
Women come in different shapes and sizes and we have always been compared to some “standard” of beauty which is why so many women are sensitive about their body weight and appearance. Some women don’t hold weight and others may not have the time or the money to look after their health. I say that every time a new brand caters to different body type, it’s a celebration of women and the different forms their feminine figures can take.
Thursday, July 1, 2010
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15 comments:
hi anaka, i follow ur blog and, during my last trip to chennai, dropped into your store and picked up a whole bunch of stuff. just wanted to let u know what a great job u are doing...i am thrilled with my buys and yes i am tall and curvy :) ur silhouettes are really great and contrary to the feedback u have received, work i think really well for "indian" figures. keep up the good work. criticism is part and parcel of every endeavour, more so in a creative field. i think constant deep breathing is in order :)
Like you mentioned, let the comments slide off your back.
As a designer you will find people who *love* your work and then the ones that absolutely hate your "stuff".
Trying to get someone to see your point-of-view is a waste of your time, as people very rarely want to change their opinion, at least in India I feel.
Every person has their fave body type to work with for their designs/creations....ok so your clothes fit a slimmmer/fitter body type versus the more well endowed kind then so be it......but you must not take things personally.
But think about making some pieces that would appeal to the well endowed kind or at the very least put up signs in the store suggesting that you are willing to create pieces for people who are a tad bit larger. Like have some sketches of designs showing your seasonal collection colors/silhouettes.
Big designers always have a few "kaftany/ample" (for the lack of a better word) versions of their pret for the well rounded clients.
Aparna: I feel so happy reading your comment. I am so so thrilled you think my clothes are made for Indian figures. I'm also flattered you follow my blog :) Thanks for shopping at my store and I hope to meet you the next time you drop by.
Rupa: I know that when you do something that doesn't have mass appeal there will be takers and haters, but the reason I got to worked up about the comment on androgynous figures is because of what the word androgynous connotes. What if a woman is an athlete or a swimmer- does she still not have a woman's figure because of some definition of what that is?
And I wouldn't say that my clothes are not made for women who are well endowed, but I admit that with readymade clothing you cannot expect to find something that is too different from our "standard" size chart. But yes, we do alterations and custom orders for customers and I am always happy to hear feedback on what sort of silhouettes are more flattering for other body types.
In response to the "kaftany" clothes, I think that would go against everything my brand stands for. It's also interesting to note that last collection I made 2 styles that do not have any waist darts and are faily relaxed around the waist and hip. THe style names are "Summer Angarka" and "Elliot's Kurta" if you want to check them out on the collections page. Both styles did not do so well and most people said that compared to the other clothes in the store, these didn't give them much shape.
I'm sure these same clothes in another store might receive a different response, but at Brass Tacks it's very clear what my specialty is, and a big deviation from that isn't good for the brand.
H Anaka,
I bought quite a bit of your stuff last year and I would agree with you that your clothes are far from those for androgynous figures. I am a 'healthy' size 6 and one of your skirts I bought gives me enough room to breate, and looks stylish and well-tailored at the same time. So, I don't know which clothes the woman who said that to you is referring to, but a few that I own do not fit that description.
Oh that note I would like to say that the last time my sister was in your Hyderabad store she said she did not find a lot of the stuff that is online, and I was a little disappointed I could not lay my hands on a few of your pretty dresses!
That said, I love your fabrics and colours and cuts. Keep them coming!
Hi Shilpa,
The store in Hyderabad is not my own- it's a store called Daaram and they retail a very small selection of my line. Daaram has a strong 100% handloom philosophy and so even if a small trim or the lining of my dresses is mill made, they cannot retail it. Having said that, Daaram is not a very high end store and the few dresses that I did keep in that store for a few months did not sell at all so I brought them back to my Chennai showroom. Sorry! It's touch to find the best retail match in other cities, and I don't have the funds right now to start my own store in every city.
Anaka, unfortunately the size and weight debate has got so terribly polarised that it's a lose-lose situation and I for one am quite sick of it. I have had similar "anti-feminist" comments for praising the way a somewhat ethereal dress fell on a slim girl. The charge was that I was thus contributing to a culture of anorexia. Women are different shapes as you say and some things look better on slim girls, some on curvy, some both. The irony is I am no slim woman, have never dieted and been a lifelong feminist! If anything I feel the size/western debate deflects attention from real issues affecting women.
It must be a zillion times harder if you are actually designing clothes for women and cannot afford to alienate potential customers.
I guess the only thing to do is to listen and then ignore such things. I can't see anything in Brass Tacks that is anti-women.
Hello,
I have bought some clothes from Brass Tacks and have received compliments when I wore them from the young hip set and the traditional grandmothers.
The comments about the clothes being anti-woman and anti-feminist are absurd.
The comment about androgynous figures is more understandable. I do believe the word "androgynous" was used as an exaggeration to point out that Brass Tacks offering of sizes is geared towards slimmer figures.
I am 5'4" and weigh approximately 54 kg. I noticed in your store that the stock was practically all for the slim figures.
The store offers beautiful clothes and customers who are too big for them understandably feel a bit disappointed.
My suggestion from a business point of view is to offer larger sizes. You won't be deviating from the store's theme by doing so: these larger sizes will still have the identical silhouettes, the usual darts and whatnot, and be made of the same handloom fabric.
Why not experiment with bigger sizes for your next collection and see how the sales go? Won't you be thrilled to make greater profits? You may find that the market for larger sizes is much bigger than the sizes you currently have to offer. But only by experimenting will you ever find out.
Good luck!
Anu: I think you are right about the weight issue deflecting attention from other issues, but it's also an example of the many ways women are held up to some crazy standard and judged by both men and women (especially by women I find) for what they do. And it's a lose lose situation! Women are judged if they balance career and family (she probably doesn't know how to cook a good meal and her nanny puts the kids to sleep) and they are also judged if they just choose family (she's obviously not ambitious or smart).
How about some solidarity from other women for a change?
R: I wish it was as simple as just making large sizes. If that were the case I would be happy to carry a size 16 and 18 in every style and, as you say, make greater profits. However most women do not put on weight proportionally, so the same silhouettes and darts do not work for larger sizes. For most larger Indian women their shoulders remain small while the rest of their measurements increase- and even then it's not proportionate. The ratio between the bust and waist changes a lot. Many of the silhouettes look completely different when they are made looser at the waist and smaller at the neck and shoulder.
And then there is the problem of larger women's tastes. If I made a halter dress that was popular, the same dress in size 16 and 18 wouldn't sell because those women would not feel comfortable wearing a halter neck dress/top.
The trick is to design silhouettes and use fabrics that are more flattering for larger women (and maybe not offer those styles in smaller sizes). But I haven't figured out that trick yet...
Hi Anaka,
I visited your shop when it was launched and bought a very nice shirt from your collection. I've been wanting to buy more from you but time is not a best friend sometimes.
Some comments from people can be irksome, especially when they are judgemental and are trying to give your work a label (feminist & androgynous, for eg). So like water off a duck's back, let those comments pass.
You are doing a good job and given the way the press likes you, you are going places! So keep at it and don't lose faith or your temper:) Best of luck.
Jyothsna
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Thanks for your kind words Jyothsna! We're launching bags in our store next weekend so maybe that will be an incentive for you to stop by? :)
Anaka, how about online shopping? It is hard to fit Chennai in my travel plans whenever I visit India, and I would definitely love to own some of your pieces!
Hi Anaka,
I live in US and I just love your clothes. My parents have come pretty often to your store and have shipped me quite a few of your stuff.
I just wanted to say your really rock and don't let these comments bog you down! I hope to visit your store this December when I come down and stock up my closet again :-)
Archana
I have heard wonderful things about your clothes and I will be certain to come down to your store the next time I'm in town. That said, are you really surprised by the kind of accusations that come your way? You cannot win them all and as long as you are clear about who your clientele is, you should play to your strengths.
I couldn't help noticing that you only go up to a size 16, would be you looking at designing for plus-sized women as well?
Good luck!
Hi Anaka,
I stopped by your store a few months back and bought quite a few pieces. Since I'm short and very curvy, I usually have trouble finding kurtas and tops that don't flatten my chest in order to fit the hip and your store was one of the few places where an 8 or 10 fit me both at the hip and the chest which I was really grateful for. I just wanted to add my voice to the non androgynous population and say I look forward to trying your new collections:)
Thank you- it means a lot to hear you say that :)
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