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Monday, March 29, 2010

Chennai and Fashion

I used to be so wary of journalists who would ask me questions on fashion trends. I’ve always felt uneasy when it comes to talking about fashion authoritatively. I never studied design, and just because I do design and make garments for a living doesn’t make me an expert. However, I do have opinions on some trends, and although my experience running a store is very limited and caters to a niche customer base, I’ve got some thoughts on how women in Chennai engage with fashion and make it their own.

So recently, when a journalist from Femina magazine spoke with me over the phone about changes in fashion over the last few years in Chennai, I had a lot to say. I didn’t have any time to give a pre-meditated response and my answers were very much guided by her questions. I read the paragraph that came in Femina the other day, and I felt bad for coming across as harsh on Chennai. I sounded, on paper, like the stereotypical person from Mumbai or Delhi who thinks of Madraasis as conservative people from a village. Of course that’s not what I think- I wouldn’t have started a business here if that was the case.

But before I explain, I have to say that it is tough to make generalizations about a city- especially any Indian city because they are growing rapidly and the culture of each city changes as the mix of the population changes. Chennai today has so much more access to media and a larger segment of the population today has a relative who either lives abroad or at least in Bangalore or Mumbai (where dressing in western clothes is a lot more acceptable). Each socio-income group has a different take on what is acceptable and what is appropriate, and this is what I’ve learned from interactions with customers at my store over the last couple of years.

1. Showing skin is only a night-time thing

For the longest time my customers complained that I had too many sleeveless clothes in my collections. They felt it was either inappropriate for their work place or their age, or sometimes they just felt it was too revealing. But then when I made halter dresses and tops with a low back, they flew off the shelves. What does this mean? Maybe some things are not considered appropriate for day wear, but different rules apply for evening wear? Or perhaps the evening wear attracts a totally different customer- one who wouldn’t really wear the Brass Tacks cotton clothes during the day anyway.

2. Hips need to be hidden

Brass Tacks clothes are pretty fitted- this means that even if they aren’t tight, they are shapely. I also try hard to work on cosmopolitan silhouettes, so aside from tunics/kurtas that go with leggings or tight pants, I stay away from that genre of “indo-western” wear (i.e. kurtis). My reasons on staying away from the kurti have a lot to do with how I am convinced they are not very flattering – but more on that in another blog post. Many women above say, 35, hate wearing clothes that don’t cover their hips. The thinking is that if the hips are covered, they are hidden and no one will ever guess how big they are.

True, they are hidden in a long kurti, but in my opinion the logic about disguising the hip size is faulty. The looser the kurti, the bigger the hips must be, right? Anyway, my point here is that many women in Chennai want their hips covered. This makes it hard to sell a look that isn’t the conventional indo-western kurti look. It also makes me think that a lot of women are in their comfort zone with the kurti look so they are averse to experimenting outside that. Does this make them conservative? Not necessarily, but it does – in my humble opinion- mean that they are fearful of experimenting or being adventurous with fashion.

3. Sexy: desired but forbidden

I often have customers who try on something that fits really well, but the customer ends up buying one size up because they felt the first garment showed off their figure in a way that is not appropriate. I usually just attribute this discomfort of contoured, shapely clothes to years of wearing loose, ill-fitting clothes. A few months ago a customer came to buy a dress to wear at a friend’s wedding party. She was with her friends and she tried on many dresses. I passed by as she tried on a silk dress with an organza layer, and I remarked that it looked very flattering on her- the dress had taken her body shape nicely. “That’s the problem”, she said, “it fits too well”. I learned from her that her family and relatives will be at this party, and it would not be becoming for a woman of her age (she couldn’t have been older than 32) to wear something so sexy.

This is by far the most interesting thing I have learned. Something about Tamil culture makes many women think it’s immoral or frivolous to be fun and sexy. Those sort of clothes are alright when you’re very young (when you still have the body of a teenager) but as you grow older you have to “dress your age” or “dress sensible” which usually translates to a sari, or clothes that are not fitted. I was once at a lunch party with many women who were in their 40s, and one of them said (in reference to why she would never shop at Brass Tacks), “we should dress our age, and we are no longer in our twenties”. I’m not commenting on what’s right or wrong here; just observing the effect this must have on purchases. Just imagine if your entire friend and family circle had such strong views on what is age appropriate, surely that must influence what you end up buying. This is Madras after all, and what people say and think matters to many of us.

Still, I have to say that there are women who are adventurous, bold, and just dying for opportunities to experiment with different colours, silhouettes and fabrics. Chennai is changing, and along with change comes different notions of what is age-appropriate and what is “too sexy”.

15 comments:

Santosh said...

I think it isn't difficult to generalize South Indian women. You will spot whole herds of aspiring Sudha Murthys. Wont find any Shobhaa Des...in public at least. I like Sudha Murthy but Come On Madras!

Anaka said...

Santosh: I see what you are saying, but I don't agree. I mean, how else are my halter dresses and dhoti pants and racer-back tops selling? Women are wearing them out in public- somewhere!

Santosh said...

I am sure they are.
I was talking to your point about generalizing 'Madraasi' women. And its quite easy to do.
South indian women dont really have a whole lot of south indian role models. They dont hear too many divergent views on things. So when there is the "we should dress our age" lady making her pronouncements (and I am sure there are many more pearls) chance are high no one will disagree. They just dont know they can.

I got to stop ranting early in the morning. I think you need to provide content advisories for your early morning readers :)
And as always thanks for all the interesting posts.

Anaka said...

I see. I guess for someone from Mumbai there is a certain homogeneity here in Chennai.
That's an interesting point you make about the lack of divergent views. I've always thought there was a hint of moral righteousness to it- like they were also saying something about other women their age who do "dress young". And that's what I'm interested in- where does that come from?
Thanks for reading and commenting- early morning rants are welcome!

kye said...

Anaka, i agree with you. Most south Indian women think it's ok to show skin only at night. I don't even carry my sleeveless clothes on my trips to Chennai. I don't know why.

Rajashree said...

Hi Anaka!!!

Hope your problem with staff is settled..

Well and now about this article, its really a very good and observation from your side.. People want to live for others and not for themselves. I'am sure its changing and it's matter of time.

Also not to forget mentioning about the words u have used, the are just so appropriate esp when u say ill-fitting. I completely agree with u on this. People are not pensive about the solace of clothes they are more concerned about how they are looked upon by others in a gathering.

To me personally clothes should be chosen to give u comfort and be cozy too and u should have the confidence to carry urself in what you choose to wear. There are people who were the in-thing and dont bother if it suits them which is ever worse.

Any way good one and wanted to express my views to add on to ur writing :)

Cheers
Rajashree

Anonymous said...

Hi Anaka,

This was a great post. I personally know women who buy clothes a couple of sizes too loose for fear of showing their figure. But this doesn't happen only in Chennai. Having observed Chennai for the last 10 years, I think things are definitely changing now. At least the college crowd and women who work in corporate/IT jobs wear more fitted clothes. At least their kurtas are more fitted. Western wear for office doesn't seem to really have caught on in Chennai.

-Nita

Arundhati said...

agree with u on 'attribute this discomfort of contoured, shapely clothes to years of wearing loose, ill-fitting clothes'. totally.

maybe the women covering hips with kurti do know that everyone can guess how big the hips r. Maybe theyre trying to prove to the prying eyes of those disapproving maamis that they r 'good girls'

i find it interesting that wearing sleeveless clothes is associated with showing skin. c'mon theyre only arms!

Anaka said...

Kalyani: Oh no, you actually never wear sleeveless in Chennai? You should try sometime...I don't think you'll get stared at unless you're in a temple!

Rajashree and Nita: Thank you, and I'm still looking for sales staff :(
I had an interesting conversation with a customer recently that helped me think about this whole issue from a different perspective. She pointed out that my clothes rest on the assumption that women want to show off their figure or that they want to wear figure flattering clothes. But what if they don't want to show their figure at all- regardless of how slim they are?
I also don't think you need to wear western clothes in order to look or feel fashionable- but well-cut and well-tailored clothes are important.

Arundhati: You are so right. They're only arms!

kye said...

i don't know what it is anaka, i feel everyone looking at me like 'where is she from'. cover up! cover up!

complicateur said...

Hey Anaka,
I'm definitely not qualified to comment on fashion, but I've been to two phenomena you mention - at the same time.

First the age appropriateness. My aunt was more than happy to shop for my sister at the store though she would never consider buying something for herself. I doubt she would have done it even in her twenties. The difference of course being that in her twenties she was married and pregnant while her daughter is a grad student. The conservative nature seems to stem from an exaggerated sense of adulthood and responsibility. To what I wonder? The word that comes to mind is "institutionalized" from Shawshank.

Second the fit issue. It was my sister that actually wanted to go up a size (from a 4 to a 5 I think, at the risk of inadvertently calling her fat) though my aunt and myself thought the lower size fit fine. Of course after a short conversation my aunt agreed with my sis that yes the higher integer was the way to go. This was an odd role reversal. On some unconscious level the discomfort with a tight fit has been transmitted across generations.

One more general comment. It isn't necessarily Thamizh culture. It is a hodge-podge of victorian mores that a great majority of middle class India has coopted.

Pauk

Anaka said...

Pauk: I'm not saying that my store should cater to women in their 50s as easily as it might to women in their 20s. But I was just wondering, out loud, why women after a certain age (and that age is different depending on the family), feel that they need to "behave themselves" and anything that suggests fun or flirty or sexy in clothes is considered frivolous or cheapening. Perhaps I am exaggerating things just to get my point across.
Let me put it this way- while a women in her 50s may not wear everything at Brass Tacks, surely she could be open to wearing some of the more safe/basic styles like the trousers, and she could wear it with a top/loose kurti from another store? Still, most women walk into the store and the impression I often get (rightly or wrongly) is that they don't really feel comfortable buying a trouser from a store that also sells dresses and fitted tops and sleeveless clothes. I guess the brand to them feels like a younger woman's brand so they immediately decide it's not for them. I'm not judging them- just trying to understand them so that I can fine-tune my positioning and marketing.
And about fits- sometimes one size up is totally the way to go if the smaller size is too tight. I'm all for comfort and elegance, but what I was referring to was when women buy sizes that are way too loose for them.

I am in complete agreement about the puritanical Victorian values, but I do feel that in comparison to other metros Chennai looks down upon women who are open and confident with their sexuality.

Anu said...

I think there is still a "public space" issue perhaps - my 20 yr old cousin for e.g. doesn't wear sleeveless on the local Mumbai trains simply to lessen catcalls etc but when she gets to college it's all fine (she wears tights and a shrug with her dress when travelling which she removes when she is in a more private space). This is true for many suburban Mumbai girls I meet, though on the whole the city is quite liberal. Perhaps this is even more pronounced in Chennai, which is culturally more prone to puritanism as you say. And there is peer pressure/in-laws/husbands/relatives etc of course. Also I think many 40 somethings worry about being "mutton dressed as lamb" and therefore tend to be very non-experimental even if the clothes are age appropriate.

Maybe you need to have names for the clothes like the Scholar dress, the Temple dress, the Marina dress, the Graduation dress etc.!!! Just kidding!

Re your previous post, apart from a partner did you also consider Etsy? There seem to be a few quirky Indian and Thai stores there which seem to have decent sales. I must confess I don't know how it all works - just a suggestion.

Anaka said...

Anu: Perhaps you're right about the public space issue, and how it affects our outlook even in private spaces. I've heard of Etsy but always been scared to try- mostly because Brass Tacks garments are best understood and appreciated when worn. But I also know another Indian designer who had a bad experience with Etsy, so I haven't tried it myself. Maybe I will look into it. Thanks!

Amrita said...

Pauk and Anaka discussion much appreciated. I think that Victorian mores happily marry TamBrahm patriarchy in Madras. A woman who is confident in her sexuality has always been a threatening thing across societies and cultures but strongly patriarchal or restrictive sub-societies always cope with it the same way: by making the woman feel ashamed for asserting her sexuality. I definitely agree with Kye that there is a sense that people are watching in madras. The Institutional Superego is everywhere and like Medusa who freezes people to stone with her gaze the institutionalized eyes of the bulwark of Chennai conservatism freezes one's desire to don that sleeveless dress for lunch for fear of being shamed as loose and immodest or foolish. By controlling women's minds with the fear of being shamed as loose, wanton or un-intelligent, a tight rein is kept on female sexuality and all the chaos that threatens to be unleashed by the power of a sexually confident woman is kept at bay successfullly.

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